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Hagens’ fifth Intervention and Wild Idea: a Council of Contrarians

A Council of Contrarians, made up of diverse, qualified persons, would have negative authority to CENSURE bad ideas.

No 2742 Posted by fw, June 19, 2021—

“As our plight gets tougher, the delusions in our politics and media are likely to get grander…. All these things are cultural coping mechanisms to avoid dealing with our biophysical reality. … There needs to be a way to hone down [blunt] all the wild, grammatically correct stories generated by human-word-storytelling to a realistic consideration of what can and can’t happened in our real world. … In Rome there was a Council of Elders specifically tasked with “CENSURE”. They had no real political power and had no ability to decide what should be done. But they had “negative authority” – They could disbar a crooked politician or throw cold water on a bad idea. … Were we to create such a “Council of Contrarians”, populated with diverse, bipartisan, qualified men and women, and confer on them only negative authority to cast out terrible ideas.”Nate Hagens

In the closing segment of his long video talk, Nate Hagens advances 12 “Interventions” categories, along with  a “Wild Idea” for each category.

In today’s repost, Hagens presents CENSURE as his fifth of 12 Interventions, along with his fifth Wild Idea: a “Council of Contrarians.”

Below is my transcript of Hagens’ fifth Intervention and accompanying Wild Idea, which I have titled: “CENSURE: Fifth Intervention and (Wild Idea)”. As usual, I include in this repost an embedded video of Hagens’ almost 3-hour talk, which features a synopsis of key ideas from his past written works and videos, packaged in 33 myths. In addition, I have included my subheadings (in bold italics) for selected paragraphs, and some text highlighting. And at the bottom of the repost is a list of Hagens’ 33 myths plus two others – Introduction and Interventions.

For those who would prefer to watch the embedded video on You Tube, click on the following linked title.

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Earth and Humanity: Myth and Reality, by Nate Hagens, You Tube, May 21, 2021 (2hr, 52min)

TRANSCRIPT of “CENSURE: Fifth Intervention and (Wild Idea)” (a short 02:35-minutes long, starting at the 2:31:21 mark, ending at 2:33:56)

CENSURE [Fifth Intervention and (Wild Idea)]

There exists a glut of well-intended ideas, generated tell people what they want to hear

The human brain can imagine millions of more ideas and sentences that can exist in the real world. Like [the chemical element] mercury, the more populist of these ideas travel politically up the food chain and get most concentrated at the top. Many of these ideas are well-intended but tell people what they want to hear using half-truths or biophysically implausible logic.

“As our plight gets tougher, the delusions in our politics and media are likely to get grander.”

As our plight gets tougher, the delusions in our politics and media are likely to get grander – Rapture ideologies like “Rapture”*. Also like: space colonization; net zero emissions; global equality at higher incomes than today; oil is going to peak, but due to lack of demand… [*Rapture — a mystical union with God or for eternal life in Heaven].

All these things are cultural coping mechanisms to avoid dealing with our biophysical reality.

It will be difficult for citizens in denial to take seriously our deteriorating “biophysical reality”

For the same reason these themes will be popular, explains why it will be difficult for logic and presentations like this one to be taken seriously. I’m talking about stuff people don’t want to believe.

We need to blunt storytelling, and spark consideration of what can and can’t happen in the real world

There needs to be a way to hone down [blunt] all the wild, grammatically correct stories generated by human-word-storytelling to a realistic consideration of what can and can’t happened in our real world.

Okay, here’s a Wild Idea.

We need a body with “negative authority” to filter out implausible ideas and disbar crooked politicians

In Rome there was a Council of Elders specifically tasked with “CENSURE”. They had no real political power and had no ability to decide what should be done. But they had “negative authority” – They could disbar a crooked politician or throw cold water on a bad idea.

We are totally lacking something like this in today’s governance — A filter for dumb scientifically implausible ideas or dangerous ones. The full committee would make one of three possible determinations:

1/ Dangerous – If this determination were made and approved by a two-thirds vote of the members, the policy or legislation would immediately be voided;

2/ Unworkable – The committee find the policy or legislation flawed;

3/ No Opinion.

A Council of Contrarians, made up of diverse, qualified persons, would have negative authority to cast out bad ideas

Were we to create such a “Council of Contrarians”, populated with diverse, bipartisan, qualified men and women, and confer on them only negative authority to cast out terrible ideas, this might go a long way for keeping “idiocracy” a movie rather than a documentary.

Side Note – In the Catholic church, when exorcisms were more common, they had a devil’s advocate who would try and prove this was not a demon possession, just craziness.

2:33:56 – End of Fifth Intervention and Wild Idea

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LIST OF THE 33 MYTHS (plus opening introduction and closing Interventions (and Wild Ideas)

Nate notes that the myths themselves are listed in reverse numerical order from #33 down to #1, while the time markers are in chronological order from beginning to end, which facilitates their quick and easy location on the video. The myths can be watched in any order, but the order they’re in made the most sense to Hagens. To go directly to the beginning of any numbered myth or to the opening Introduction and closing Interventions and Wild Ideas, just click on the linked time stamp.

Time stamps: 0:04 — Introduction 2:20 — Myth #33: The Experts Have ALL the Answers 4:16 — Myth #32: Humans Are Separate From Nature 6:45 — Myth #31: Humans Are Mostly Selfish 12:17 — Myth #30: More Is Better 18:12 — Myth #29: “Someday I’ll Have enough” 21:18 — Myth #28: We Care About the Future 23:38 — Myth #27: Everyone Has Their Own Truth 26:37 — Myth #26: Truth Matters 29:31 — Myth #25: Energy Is Merely a Commodity 34:28 — Myth #24: The American Dream is Based on Hard Work and Cleverness 36:05 — Myth #23: Oil: The USA Will Be the Next Saudi Arabia 41:46 — Myth #22: We Can Always Get More Resources if We Have More Money 44:42 — Myth #21: Renewables Can Power THIS Civilization 50:55 — Myth #20: In the future we wont need oil due to Peak Demand!! 55:01 — Myth #19: We Can Achieve Net Zero!! (by 2050 or any date) 59:54 — Myth #18: As Earth runs out of resources, We’ll Colonize Outer Space!! 1:02:26 — Myth #17: Growth Is Forever 1:05:04 — Myth #16: GDP Is the Right Goal for Society 1:10:56 — Myth #15: Overpopulation Is the Main Driver 1:15:21 — Myth #14: Technology Will Solve It 1:21:16 — Myth #13: The Environment Is Part of the Economy 1:24:04 — Myth #12: The Natural World Is Ours 1:27:03 — Myth #11: Climate Change Is the Core Problem 1:32:44 — Myth #10: Billionaires and Politicians Are in Charge 1:38:56 — Myth #9: Financial Markets Give Us the Right Signals for the Future 1:43:22 — Myth #8: Stimulus Is Permanent 1:48:37 — Myth #7: We Need to Crash the System to Get a Fresh Start 1:52:43 — Myth #6: The Use of Nuclear Weapons Is Unthinkable 1:57:03 — Myth #5: Fossil Fuel Companies Are at Fault 2:03:01 — Myth #4: Capitalism Is to Blame 2:07:54 — Myth #3: Humans Are Bad 2:11:37 — Myth #2: We Face a Shortage of Energy 2:14:17 — Myth #1: We Are Doomed 2:19:56 — Interventions (and Wild Ideas)

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