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Hagens’ fourth Intervention and Wild Idea: a Council of Elders

Tsunamis are coming. The foresight offered by a Council of Elders would position it to advance policies and solutions for a world facing future calamities. —

No 2741 Posted by fw, June 18, 2021 —

In the closing sentence of yesterday’s repost on sensemaking, Nate Hagens closed with this cautionary remark: “If we don’t solve this – ‘Better information with wisdom traditions…’ — many of the other interventions that I’m about to suggest are going to have short runways.”

Hagens follows up the above thread with this opening to today’s repost:

“At the same time, our systemic situation is the perfect storm for politicians to ignore or set aside, we can increasingly envision both how these risks will manifest and what sort of interventions would mitigate them to put our nation on more stable, perhaps even more desirable footing. The policies we are advocating now are important but merely at the margin. Tsunamis are coming. People need to know, plan for, and act on these. A wild idea is advanced policy, some sort of Council of Elders, which would be policies and solutions that the world is not yet ready for but will need to have or we’re going to be in serious trouble.”Nate Hagens

In the closing segment of his long video talk, Nate Hagens advances 12 “Intervention” categories, along with  a “Wild Idea” for each category.

In today’s repost, Hagens presents FORESIGHT as his fourth of 12 Interventions, along with his fourth Wild Idea: “Council of Elders.”

Below is my transcript of Hagens’ fourth Intervention and accompanying Wild Idea, which I have titled: “FORESIGHT: Fourth Intervention and (Wild Idea)”. As usual, I include in this repost an embedded video of Hagens’ almost 3-hour talk, which features a synopsis of key ideas selected from his archive of written works and videos, and packaged in 33 myths. And at the bottom of the repost is a list of Hagens’ 33 myths (plus two) – an Introduction and Interventions.

For those who would prefer to watch the embedded video on You Tube, click on the following linked title.

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Earth and Humanity: Myth and Reality, by Nate Hagens, You Tube, May 21, 2021 (2hr, 52min)

TRANSCRIPT of “FORESIGHT: Fourth Intervention and (Wild Idea)” (a short 01:31-minutes long, starting at 2:29:50 mark, ending at 2:31:21)

FORESIGHT [Fourth Intervention and (Wild Idea)]

At the same time, our systemic situation is the perfect storm for politicians to ignore or set aside, we can increasingly envision both how these risks will manifest and what sort of interventions would mitigate them to put our nation on more stable, perhaps even more desirable footing.

The policies we are advocating now are important but merely at the margin. Tsunamis are coming. People need to know, plan for, and act on these.

A wild idea is advanced policy, some sort of Council of Elders, which would be policies and solutions that the world is not yet ready for but will need to have or we’re going to be in serious trouble.

Current politicians, CEOs etc., are unlikely, if not impossible candidates to spearhead such a concept because their job descriptions are focused on the NOW using existing conventions, assumptions and even myths.

However, retired politicians, civic and business leaders, philanthropists and the like, can play a key “tribal of elders” role in the systemic sensemaking that might inform advanced policy. This would include building awareness, understanding, blueprints and “break glass in case of XYZ emergency plans”, where the XYZ can be anticipated and spelled out ahead of time, and then can be credibly handed off when needed.

2:31:21 – End of Fourth Intervention and Wild Idea

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LIST OF THE 33 MYTHS (plus opening introduction and closing Interventions (and Wild Ideas)

Nate notes that the myths themselves are listed in reverse numerical order from #33 down to #1, while the time markers are in chronological order from beginning to end, which facilitates their quick and easy location on the video. The myths can be watched in any order, but the order they’re in made the most sense to Hagens. To go directly to the beginning of any numbered myth or to the opening Introduction and closing Interventions and Wild Ideas, just click on the linked time stamp.

Time stamps: 0:04 — Introduction 2:20 — Myth #33: The Experts Have ALL the Answers 4:16 — Myth #32: Humans Are Separate From Nature 6:45 — Myth #31: Humans Are Mostly Selfish 12:17 — Myth #30: More Is Better 18:12 — Myth #29: “Someday I’ll Have enough” 21:18 — Myth #28: We Care About the Future 23:38 — Myth #27: Everyone Has Their Own Truth 26:37 — Myth #26: Truth Matters 29:31 — Myth #25: Energy Is Merely a Commodity 34:28 — Myth #24: The American Dream is Based on Hard Work and Cleverness 36:05 — Myth #23: Oil: The USA Will Be the Next Saudi Arabia 41:46 — Myth #22: We Can Always Get More Resources if We Have More Money 44:42 — Myth #21: Renewables Can Power THIS Civilization 50:55 — Myth #20: In the future we wont need oil due to Peak Demand!! 55:01 — Myth #19: We Can Achieve Net Zero!! (by 2050 or any date) 59:54 — Myth #18: As Earth runs out of resources, We’ll Colonize Outer Space!! 1:02:26 — Myth #17: Growth Is Forever 1:05:04 — Myth #16: GDP Is the Right Goal for Society 1:10:56 — Myth #15: Overpopulation Is the Main Driver 1:15:21 — Myth #14: Technology Will Solve It 1:21:16 — Myth #13: The Environment Is Part of the Economy 1:24:04 — Myth #12: The Natural World Is Ours 1:27:03 — Myth #11: Climate Change Is the Core Problem 1:32:44 — Myth #10: Billionaires and Politicians Are in Charge 1:38:56 — Myth #9: Financial Markets Give Us the Right Signals for the Future 1:43:22 — Myth #8: Stimulus Is Permanent 1:48:37 — Myth #7: We Need to Crash the System to Get a Fresh Start 1:52:43 — Myth #6: The Use of Nuclear Weapons Is Unthinkable 1:57:03 — Myth #5: Fossil Fuel Companies Are at Fault 2:03:01 — Myth #4: Capitalism Is to Blame 2:07:54 — Myth #3: Humans Are Bad 2:11:37 — Myth #2: We Face a Shortage of Energy 2:14:17 — Myth #1: We Are Doomed 2:19:56 — Interventions (and Wild Ideas)

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