Re XR’s three demands – the first is meaningless, the second reflects an ignorance of climate science, and the third is simply naïve.
No 2532 Posted by fw, October 17, 2019
“This gets to the heart of the problem with Extinction Rebellion’s current stance. They call on government to declare something called a “climate emergency” – which, of course, governments are happy to do because it is a meaningless and vacuous declaration. The assumption behind it, however, is the entirely erroneous belief that solutions to our current predicament are still in the gift of governments…. This brings us to Extinction Rebellion’s second demand – that governments must implement reforms to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to net-zero by 2025. This is where the science parts company with the campaigners. Firstly, there is no net zero because humans have failed to figure out a viable means of capturing and sequestering carbon dioxide for the several centuries that would be required after we ceased burning fossil fuels to restore the climate to something akin to conditions today. … This is where Extinction Rebellion’s third demand – that the emergency is too serious to be political, and must be handed over to a citizen’s assembly – is simply naïve. Everything that we do is political. I am NOT prepared to make that sacrifice while others continue to have large families, drive cars, fly and use mobile phones. Nor am I prepared to go without food in order to pay the excessive cost of a non-renewable renewable energy-harvesting infrastructure while the government continues to dole out billions of pounds to parasitic corporate welfare outfits that do little good for any of us.” —Tim Watkins, Consciousness of Sheep
Tim Watkins is a social and economic scientist with a background in public policy research and founder of the Consciousness of Sheep website, a running commentary on the slow motion train wreck that is Western civilization.
Watkins concludes his article with this sobering, concluding paragraph:
“Our current civilisation can be compared to the last moments of the Titanic – holed below the waterline and destined to sink into a watery grave. Most of those who are protesting are merely akin to the frightened passengers begging a Captain and crew to respond to a situation that they have already lost control of. The sensible few among the protestors will look to those who are assembling the lifeboats. But the majority – whether they believe the emergency is real or not – will soon meet their tragic end. And protesting icebergs and reckless Captains will do nothing to save them – or us – now!”
Below is my repost of Tim Watkins’ article, featuring my added subheadings, text highlighting, minor editing changes, and added images.
Alternatively, read the piece on his website be clicking on the following linked title.
Yes, Extinction Rebellion protests have made a huge contribution to raising public awareness
In many ways, this month’s Extinction Rebellion protests – which have brought city centres around the world to a standstill – are to be welcomed and supported; not least because they have made a huge contribution to raising public awareness of what they call the “climate emergency” (or what I call the climate component of our “predicament”). As Polly Toynbee at the Guardian reports:
“For those who doubt the effect of last April’s XR protests, Ben Page of Ipsos Mori says: ‘In our polls in 2013, 59% said the planet was ‘heading for disaster’. This year it’s gone up to 78%.” He reckons Greta Thunberg, the school strikes and XR action played their part. What packs an extra punch is that London is just one of 60 global cities engaged in ‘uprising’ at the same time’…”
However, with awareness-raising accomplished, their further efforts will face diminishing returns
The broader question, however, is whether raising awareness is the most critical issue at the moment. Clearly the leaders of Extinction Rebellion believe that it is; since they are prepared to face jail – and to encourage thousands of others to risk jail – in order to push public awareness that extra 10 per cent or so higher than it is now. The trouble is that when four-fifths of the population already say they agree with you that there is a climate emergency, any further effort is going to meet with severely diminishing returns. The final fifth of the population are the ones who will deny the climate is changing even as they are sat on top of the last British mountain not to be engulfed by the rising seas. Trying to win them around is futile. It is on a par with getting four-fifths of the population to oppose racism, but then to claim that you must keep protesting because we haven’t won the Ku Klux Klan over yet.
The climate change-denying section of the press, as expected, have alleged that the overwhelmingly white and middle class composition of the protestors is evidence that the entire movement is little more than the snow-flaky whining of an over-privileged affluent class. … The more damaging right-wing critique, however, is mentioned by [Polly] Toynbee:
“Never mind the science: what free-market obsessives like [Douglas] Murray can’t bear is that solving the climate crisis requires state and international action. He would rather boil to oblivion, faithful to his free-market creed, than see the planet saved by means he regards as statist or even socialist… Murray accuses XR of wanting to ‘engineer the complete destruction of the global economic system’…”
Alas, Toynbee and XR rebels embrace the fantasy of a Green New Deal
Toynbee is, of course, among the techno-utopian faithful who are wedded to the fantasy of the UK Labour Party’s version of a Green New Deal which will supposedly come to humanity’s rescue if only enough people are prepared to sign up to it. But the reason journalists like Toynbee, Labour politicians and many – if not most – of the Extinction Rebellion protestors believe this (or some variant of it) is largely due to the failings of an education system that left most educated people with no grounding in the sciences.
XR assumes governments, with the help citizens’ assemblies, can come up with a solution to our predicament
This gets to the heart of the problem with Extinction Rebellion’s current stance. They call on government to declare something called a “climate emergency” – which, of course, governments are happy to do because it is a meaningless and vacuous declaration. The assumption behind it, however, is the entirely erroneous belief that solutions to our current predicament are still in the gift of governments that have proved incapable of negotiating relatively simple trade deals, of overseeing railways, of running a welfare and pensions service, or more recently, of even keeping the country’s lights on… indeed, in the case of the current UK government, even the Christmas party has been cancelled because they couldn’t find a brewery to host it.
But the scale of the 2008 financial crisis is limiting government scope for action
However, while we can – and should – laugh at the political class (don’t get me started on the lunatics on both sides of the aisle on the other side of the Atlantic) in reality, their scope for action is limited by the scale of the crisis that has been unfolding since the banking system crashed in 2008. And [Douglas] Murray is correct here.
Moreover, a “global economic system”, presided over by a technocracy, has supplanted national economies, and it rules supreme
The neoliberal economic system introduced by Thatcher and Reagan, and set in stone by Clinton and Blair, was deliberately designed to remove national politicians from positions of power over the system. The national economies of the post-war years, with their controls on capital and their focus on full-employment were swept away. In their place is a global economy presided over by a technocracy within global institutions like the G20, the IMF and the World Bank; and – crucially – enforced by a series of secret supranational courts. The mandate that these institutions are bound to follow is that nothing – not national interests or attempts at sustainability – is permitted to get in the way of trade. Unless we tear down what Murray calls “the global economic system,” we can do nothing to prevent it from continuing to undermine life on Earth – and thereby bring about its own end anyway.
XR’s second demand – net zero global emissions by 2025 – reflects an ignorance of climate science
This brings us to Extinction Rebellion’s second demand – that governments (collectively, since they would have to dismantle the global trade system) must implement reforms to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2025. This is where the science parts company with the campaigners.
With no proven technologies capable of removing CO2 from the atmosphere, net zero is impossible
Firstly, there is no net zero because humans have failed to figure out a viable means of capturing and sequestering carbon dioxide for the several centuries that would be required after we ceased burning fossil fuels to restore the climate to something akin to conditions today. At this point, no doubt, some readers will object that trees and soils are natural carbon sinks; and so we might plant more trees and restore more soils. The question, however, is which trees and soils, and to what end? Few trees live beyond a century (especially when some idiot comes along and harvests them to use as “green” biofuel). And when a tree dies and falls to the floor, it dumps all of the carbon back into the atmosphere. Similar problems affect attempts at soil restoration since any further use will unlock the carbon stored there.
And the one natural process that can remove carbon will take centuries to cool the climate
There is, you will be pleased to know, one natural process that can sequester and lock up all of the carbon that we have dumped into the atmosphere in the course of the last three centuries. It involves a warmer and wetter climate washing nutrients off the land and out to sea; where plankton and algae blooms can flourish and multiply; giving off noxious hydrogen sulphide – which causes “red tide events” – as a by-product. As these microscopic plants die, they sink to the ocean floor where, along with the carcasses of any marine creature that happened into the oxygen-starved red waters beneath the surface, they gradually decompose into a glutinous mud. Over time, layers and layers of this hydrocarbon-rich mud will pile up. And over centuries it will be subsumed beneath the Earth’s crust, where it will be heated and compressed beneath an impervious layer of rock that prevents it from leaking to the surface. With the carbon sequestered in this way, over millions of years the climate will cool once more.
My more alert readers will be aware that the process that I just described is the one in which the fossil fuels that we have been burning for the past 300 years were created in the first place. As far as I am aware, it is the only process currently known that can lock up large volumes of carbon dioxide for the geological time period required to repair the damage that we have already done.
And offsetting carbon is a fraud, which merely adds to the damage already inflicted
There is, then, no means of offsetting carbon – the idea of “net zero” is little more than an accounting/public relations device designed to give the impression that corporations are environmentally-friendly when, in truth, any corporate economic activity at this point is merely adding to the damage already inflicted. As I once explained: getting someone to buy meat for me may make my shopping basket look like it belongs to a vegan; but that doesn’t change the fact that I eat meat… it is the same with “green” energy.
There is already enough CO2 in the atmosphere to warm the planet to an uninhabitable 3°C
There is enough carbon dioxide in the atmosphere already to raise the temperature above 3 degrees over pre-industrial levels; so that even if we ceased burning fossil fuels today, it is highly unlikely that the global economy and a population approaching 8 billion can survive the devastation.
Pessimists argue that we’ll be lucky if there are any humans left on Earth by 2030
Indeed, those at the more pessimistic end of the spectrum argue that we will be lucky if there are any humans at all on Earth by 2030. But even knowing that the current debate is between those who think things are about to get very, very bad and those who think they are about to become fatal will not be enough to prevent humanity from continuing to pump greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
And the only way to support an unsustainable global population is with fossil-powered industrial agriculture
The reason is simple, the only way in which we can support a global population that is at least eight times the sustainable level; is to use fossil-powered industrial agriculture on a global scale. And while switching the diet to lower the volume of cow belches will make an insignificant difference, the fact remains that fossil-powered global plant farming is still a major source of greenhouse gases. Nor do we dare dispense with the fossil-powered global supply chains that have saved the largest part of humanity from the kind of famines that were commonplace just a few decades ago. Growing excess food in favourable regions and transporting it to less favourable ones has always been the means by which humans combatted famine. The only difference today is that we do it on a global scale; meaning that disruption in any one supply chain can rapidly undermine the entire system.
Those who believe renewables will be our salvation are products of an education system not fit for purpose
At this point, of course, the techo-utopian journalists, politicians and protestors will complain that I am ignoring renewable energy and the fourth industrial revolution. Once again, the reason for this objection is largely a product of an education system that is not fit for purpose. In a recent article on the Peak Prosperity website, scientist* Chris Martenson refers to the sheer scale of the task that would be involved just in substituting (i.e. ignoring all of the technical engineering challenges involved) the quantity of energy we get from fossil fuels with renewable energy. [*Martenson is an economic researcher and futurist specializing in energy and resource depletion, and co-founder of PeakProsperity.com].
Martenson outlines the scale of the challenge to transition from fossil to renewable energy
“Suppose we agree on the goal to entirely replace fossil fuel energy by 2050. (We’re going to have to do it by some point, because oil, coal and natural gas are all depleting finite resources.)
“With 2050 as a starting point we can run some simple math.
“We start by converting the three main fossil fuels – coal, oil and natural gas – into a common unit: the “millions of tons of oil equivalent” or Mtoe.
“A million tons of oil = 1 Mtoe, obviously. And there’s an amount of coal, if burned that has the same energy as 1 Mtoe. Ditto for natural gas. If we add up all of the fossil fuels burned in a given year, then we can express that as a single number in the many thousands of Mtoe.
“Roger Pielke has run the math for us in his recent article in Forbes: [Net-Zero Carbon Dioxide Emissions By 2050 Requires A New Nuclear Power Plant Every Day]
‘In 2018 the world consumed 11,743 Mtoe in the form of coal, natural gas and petroleum. The combustion of these fossil fuels resulted in 33.7 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide emissions. In order for those emissions to reach net-zero, we will have to replace about 12,000 Mtoe of energy consumption expected for 2019’…
“So, what would it take to replace those 12,000 Mtoe with alternative fuels by 2050?
“Pilke answers that for us:
Another useful number to know is that there are 11,051 days left until January 1, 2050.
To achieve net-zero carbon dioxide emissions globally by 2050 thus requires the deployment of >1 Mtoe of carbon-free energy consumption (~12,000 Mtoe/11,051 days) every day, starting tomorrow and continuing for the next 30+ years…
“But that’s only half of the story.
“We’d also have to decommission and retire an equivalent 1 Mtoe amount of still-functioning fossil fuel property, plant and equipment. Do you have any idea how much money and embedded capital is contained in all the world’s current energy infrastructure — including our cars and homes — that’s built around fossil fuel use?
“Somehow, the world would have to replace the equivalent of the energy contained within 2.4 Ultra Massive crude ships. Every. Single. Day. For 11,000 days straight, without missing a single day. A 7,000 mile long cargo train of ultra massive ships retired at the rate of 2.4 per day for the next 30 years…
“What would that take? Again from Pilke:
So the math here is simple: to achieve net-zero carbon dioxide emissions by 2050, the world would need to deploy 3 [brand new] nuclear plants worth of carbon-free energy every two days, starting tomorrow and continuing to 2050. At the same time, a nuclear plant’s worth of fossil fuels would need to be decommissioned every day, starting tomorrow and continuing to 2050.
I’ve found that some people don’t like the use of a nuclear power plant as a measuring stick. So we can substitute wind energy as a measuring stick. Net-zero carbon dioxide by 2050 would require the deployment of ~1500 wind turbines (2.5 MW) over ~300 square miles, every day starting tomorrow and continuing to 2050.”
“We’re nowhere close to being able to build out the massive energy projects required”
It has taken a Herculean effort in the developed western states just to deploy a relatively small number of wind turbines and solar panels into our electricity generation mix. The idea that we are going to replace the far larger fossil fuel consumption in transport, building temperature control, industry and agriculture is no more than magic thinking.
As Martenson concludes:
“Given the math, human tendencies, and the issues pertaining to time, scale and cost, the current green energy movement currently is little more than hot air. It’s just not going to happen in time.
“We’re nowhere close to being able to build out the massive energy projects required. The equivalent of 3 nuclear plants every two days for the next 30 years? That’s a total pipe dream.
“We lack the political will, the cultural readiness, the proper narrative. Even the appropriate resources.
“Beyond those concerns, nearly everything about how we heat, move, cool and manufacture the components of our modern lives will have to be refashioned (and possibly jettisoned) as part of that project.”
Hypocrisy? – How many XR protestors are willing to make the necessary lifestyle changes they advocate?
This is where the charge of hypocrisy that is often levelled against Extinction Rebellion hits home. It is doubtful that more than a handful of the protestors is prepared to make even a fraction of the lifestyle changes that would be involved just to lower the rate at which we are dumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Certainly some will be prepared to give up flying, stop eating meat, use a refillable water bottles and put on an extra layer rather than turn the heating up. Mobile phones are a different matter – even though the data centres on which they depend are among the most polluting buildings on Earth. Few, one suspects, will be prepared to take the radical actions such as giving up the right to have children in favour of the birth licensing system that a rapid shift to a zero-carbon economy implies.
XR’s third demand – expecting a citizen’s assembly to come up with a solution – is simply naïve
This is where Extinction Rebellion’s third demand – that the emergency is too serious to be political, and must be handed over to a citizen’s assembly – is simply naïve. Everything that we do is political. I am, for example, fully prepared to support and vote for the radical changes that would dismantle, de-grow and disintegrate the current global economic system. I am prepared to forgo the hi-tech health system that has kept me alive for the last decade; even though its end is likely to result in my own premature death. I am NOT, however, prepared to make that sacrifice while others continue to have large families, drive cars, fly and use mobile phones. Nor am I prepared to go without food in order to pay the excessive cost of a non-renewable renewable energy-harvesting infrastructure while the government continues to dole out billions of pounds to parasitic corporate welfare outfits that do little good for any of us.
“We simply will not be able to construct an economic lifeboat to save even a proportion of us”
I am not alone in this, as the recent Australian election, the Yellow vest movement in France, and even a proportion of Trump, Sanders, Corbyn and Brexit voters will attest – we simply will not be able to construct an economic lifeboat to save even a proportion of us as we de-grow our population and economy to something more sustainable if we persist in allowing a small minority to “own” more than half of the world’s “wealth” even as a growing majority struggles to put food on the table.
XR’s dilemma —
In the end, Extinction Rebellion is facing the same dilemma that has plagued the environmental movement from the start:
Will XR opt to pretend that we can continue to grow the economy while protecting the environment
My fear is that – like the various green parties around the world – this latest manifestation of environmentalism will take the second option so as not to scare the horses. And if those at the gloomier end of the spectrum are correct and that we only have 10 years left, this may not be such a bad thing; after all, they say that dying in your sleep is far preferable than consciously looking death in the face. Either way, one can count on one hand the number of protest movements that have achieved the change they wanted to bring about. The enormity of the predicament does not change this fact.
“The sad reality is that we are all prisoners of the very system that is killing us”
The sad reality is that we are all prisoners of the very system that is killing us; dependent upon it for the food, water, clothing and shelter that sustain us even as it destroys the habitat we depend upon. We could end it tomorrow if only the majority of us chose to stop playing the game; but the sacrifice is too great… and few of us are prepared to take the hit while others continue to get a free pass.
The changes that are coming are not the ones XR wants
And so, while I salute those who have taken to the streets this month (my son is among them and I am proud that he is standing up for what he believes in) I would also caution them that the changes that are coming are not the ones they want; still less the ones the leaders of their movement are pretending they can have.
“Our current civilization can be compared to the last moments of the Titanic”
Our current civilisation can be compared to the last moments of the Titanic – holed below the waterline and destined to sink into a watery grave. Most of those who are protesting are merely akin to the frightened passengers begging a Captain and crew to respond to a situation that they have already lost control of. The sensible few among the protestors will look to those who are assembling the lifeboats. But the majority – whether they believe the emergency is real or not – will soon meet their tragic end. And protesting icebergs and reckless Captains will do nothing to save them – or us – now!
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