Citizen Action Monitor

Afghanistan now brutal “mafia state”, result of 12 years US/NATO occupation, says Afghan woman activist

Celebrated Malalai Joya exposes the horrors of Afghans’ “life in hell”

No 872 Posted by fw, October 05, 2013

“As always, I say that U.S. government has two faces. One is the dirty imperialist government of the U.S. Another is the great people like Bradley Manning, like Edward Snowden, like Daniel Ellsberg, and many others who stand up against the wrong policies of their government, these war crimes and warmongers, and they live in the hearts of millions of democratic justice-loving people around the world, especially oppressed people of the world. And they are hero for my people. We need the support and solidarity of justice-loving people of the U.S. to join their hands with us.”Malalai Joya

To watch an interview with this extraordinarily courageous Afghan woman activist, and access a full transcript of the event, click on the following linked title. An embedded version of the 17-minute video is below, accompanied by an abridged transcript with added subheadings and text highlighting.

“Imperialism & Fundamentalism Have Joined Hands”: Malalai Joya on 12 Years of U.S.-Led Afghan War, Democracy Now interviews Malalai Joya, October 3, 2013


[Introduction by Amy Goodman] — Next week marks the 12th anniversary of the beginning of what’s become the longest war in U.S. history. Earlier this week, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the United States is seeking to sign an accord with the Afghan government to keep U.S. troops in the country for the indefinite future. The United States plans to pull out the bulk of its 57,000 troops in Afghanistan by the end of 2014, but the Pentagon wants to retain a smaller force of around 10,000 forces after 2014. In addition, the United States wants to maintain the right to run unilateral counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan after 2014.

To discuss the situation in Afghanistan, we’re joined by the activist and former Afghan member of Parliament, Malalai Joya. In 2010, Time magazine named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world. She is author of the book A Woman among Warlords: The Extraordinary Story of an Afghan Who Dared to Raise Her Voice.

First a clip from the film Enemies of Happiness. It’s 2003. In a meeting of Afghanistan’s newly elected Constitutional Assembly, the Loya Jirga, a then-unknown 24-year-old Malalai Joya steps to the microphone to deliver a speech that would make headlines around the world and draw threats against her life.

Malalai Joya, at 24, dares speak truth to power and is thrown out of newly elected Constitutional Assembly

Chairman — [translated] What are you saying?

Malalai Joya — [translated] We kids can’t get a word in. I would like to say a few words, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman — [translated] Wait a minute. Stay in your seats. One sister says that she has traveled far. She insists that we haven’t given the kids enough speaking time. You have three minutes, please.

Malalai Joya —[translated] My name is Malalai Joya from the Farah province. With the permission of all those present and in respect of the martyrs who were killed, I would like to speak. I wish to criticize my compatriots in this room. Why would you allow criminals to be present at this Loya Jirga, warlords responsible for our country’s situation? Afghanistan is the center for national and international conflicts. They oppress women and have ruined our country. They should be prosecuted. They might be forgiven by the Afghan people, but not by history.

Chairman — [translated] Sit down! Sit down! The sister has crossed the line of what is considered common courtesy. She is banished from this assembly and cannot return. Send her out! Guards, throw her out! She doesn’t deserve to be here.

Malalai insists it is the Loya Jirga that must apologize to the oppressed people of Afghanistan

Malalai Joya — I said the truth and exposed the mask of fundamentalist warlords, who are mentally same like Taliban but only physically has been changed and imposed on Afghan people. They were control Afghanistan. Still they are in power. And as I exposed their mask, they could not tolerate it and expelled me from the Loya Jirga and even not allow me to come back. They have told me if I say apologize, I can come back. As I never said apologize and will say apologize, and they must say apologize to suffer oppressed people of Afghanistan, especially unfortunate women, that committed many crimes against them and still continue to their crimes and fascism under the name of women rights, human rights and democracy.

Now living as an underground activist, Malalai wears a burqa, has bodyguards and is constantly on the move

I am there underground, activist, and have close contact with my people. Underground, I mean despite wearing burqa and have bodyguards, not safe moving from one place to another place, that to not be easy target.

There have been 7 assassination attempts against Malalai, terrorist attacks on her house, 12 bodyguards injured

As last year on 10 of March, these terrorists attacked my house and office in Farah province, that 12 of my bodyguards brutally has been injured. And this is about seven assassination attempts they do against me. That’s why I have to be underground. I mean that I can’t have office or a house, that [inaudible] much easier for an activist to have it. But unfortunately, for security reasons, it’s not only me, there is many other democrat men and women activists that are risking their life, struggling, but have to be underground.

After 12 years of American/NATO occupation, Afghanistan has become a “mafia state”…and more

Regarding your question about consequences of the 12 years of occupation of U.S. and NATO, unfortunately was –

  • more bloodshed, crimes, women rights, human rights violations,
  • looting of our resource and changing of our country into mafia state,
  • as during these 12 bloody years tens of thousands of innocent civilians have been killed by occupation forces and terrorist groups.
  • And they have changed Afghanistan to the center of the drugs. That’s more than 90 percent of opium produced from Afghanistan, as I believe opium is even more dangerous than al-Qaeda and war as it destroy and spoils the life of Afghans. Around two million Afghan addicted, most of them are women and children.
  • And also, there’s a report Afghanistan is the second most corrupt country in the world.
  • And according to UNIFEM, Afghanistan is the worst place to be a woman.
  • And many example like this, this list can be prolonged, that they unfortunately committed crimes against our people.
  • Still this war, disgusting war, is going on, and even right now trying to negotiate with terrorist Taliban, as these 12 years were saying to our people, “We are there to fight against Taliban and al-Qaeda,” but now U.S. officials and puppet regime of Karzai shamelessly publicly they say that Taliban are not their enemies anymore and going to negotiate with them, invite them to join this puppet, corrupt mafia regime.
  • As I briefly said, as tip of the iceberg example of the brutalities and war crime of the U.S. and also these fundamentalist warlords, even Taliban, who both of them their godfather is the U.S.

As long as US military bases remain, Afghans can’t expect to have independence

And regarding the withdrawal of the troops, just a few thousands of the troops will withdraw, to deceive justice-loving people of the U.S. and around the world, as they’re under pressure of justice-loving people of these countries because of this endless war there, but their military bases remain there, as nine major military bases now. They are working on it and going to legalize this. And also, that they raise this propaganda that civil war will happen if we leave Afghanistan. Behind of this, also the hand of the U.S., to make afraid the people to accept these military bases. I believe as long as in a country which has foreign military bases, U.S. military bases, they can’t expect that they have independence.

US doesn’t care about Afghans; US “is there for their own evil agendas”, to continue “their barbarism and control”

And same in my country, when we don’t have independence, talking about democracy, women rights, human rights is just a painful joke. And also that everyone know now—it became clear for Afghan people, too—that the U.S. is there for their own strategic, regional, economic and political interests. They don’t take care to the well wishes of these Afghan people, and they are there for their own evil agendas, as now trying to bring these terrorist Taliban also in power under the name of national peace reconciliation, as I believe such kind of so-called peace will be more dangerous than the current war, because the result of this peace will be—become united the enemies of Afghan people—Taliban, warlords, these drug lords, terrorists. And also the puppets of Russia, call them—our people call them Khalki and Parchami—as recently attorney general of Holland released a list of 5,000 innocent people, most of them intellectuals, who were massacred and killed by a puppet of Russia, as now they have high posts in Karzai’s regime. So U.S. trying to make more powerful their puppet regime, then also their military bases remain there, then even indirectly and also in a different way, they continue to their barbarism and control Afghanistan.

US forces should leave Afghanistan now

They must leave Afghanistan as soon as possible. They should leave Afghanistan now, as they occupied our country. We have proudful history, never accept occupation. And they still push more Afghanistan toward the Stone Ages by supporting these terrorists, as the presence of these troops make much harder our struggle for justice and democracy, and create more obstacles for true democratic-minded elements.

The presence of tens of thousands of troops has made Afghanistan “like hell”, especially for women

U.S. troop is there for this criminal war, since the war, as they occupied our country, will not leave Afghanistan voluntarily soon, as situation for millions of Afghan by presence of tens of thousands troops is like hell, especially in Farah provinces. And women, still they are the most and prime victims, and they—for example, rapes, domestic violences, acid attacks, burning the girls’ schools, and many other violence is increasing more and more, as right now I’m following the case of Shakila, a 16-years-old girl who has been raped and killed by a member of the provincial council and three other parlimentarian so-called member of Parliament. They are partner in this case in trying to forge the medical report of the raped girl. And even a few kilometers away from Kabul just a few months ago, a [inaudible] young girl has been prosecuted publicly by one of the criminal fundamentalist party, Hezb-e Islamic party, that run by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, this terrorist. Also Taliban in different provinces, they are doing public executions, without at least to bring these women to this fundamentalist or mafia court that we have. And many other example like this, that they control Afghanistan day by day, they are getting powerful. That’s why we want the withdrawal of the troops as soon as possible from Afghanistan, because they double our miseries and sorrows of our people. And if, honestly, they leave, at least these warlords and these Taliban, these terrorists, will not be more powerful, to be easier for them to eliminate democratic people of Afghanistan and suffer or kill innocent people there.

Afghanistan needs the support of justice-loving people of American to join hands with us

I’m here to talk about the 12th anniversary of the U.S. and NATO occupation and bring the message of suffering people of Afghanistan to justice-loving people of the U.S. As always, I say that U.S. government has two faces. One is the dirty imperialist government of the U.S. Another is the great people like Bradley Manning, like Edward Snowden, [inaudible], like Daniel Ellsberg, and many others who stand up against the wrong policies of their government, these war crimes and warmongers, and they live in the hearts of millions of democratic justice-loving people around the world, especially oppressed people of the world. And they are hero for my people. We need the support and solidarity of justice-loving people of the U.S. to join their hands with us. Unfortunately, we say that today imperialism and fundamentalism have joined hands to lead the world toward barbarism. We should fight against it, even if it happens in Iran or Iraq, in Palestine, Libya, Syria, etc. We need to be united and to do—and continue to our struggle against these warmongers. And, fortunately, we see the justice-loving people around the world, and especially in the U.S., they are here. Glorious uprising are happening against the economic crisis and these warmongers, which is a big source of hope for the future.

The support that we received from justice-loving American people, day by day, it’s getting more and more, as I have experienced personally, on behalf of suffering people of Afghanistan, that each time when I travel, I come in the U.S., I see more people come and listening and announce their support, as now it become like an open secret for justice-loving people around the world, especially for the U.S. people. And as always, I say that—about the role, negative role of these occupiers there, and about their brutalities and also brutalities and barbarism of these fundamentalists that who are a puppet of the U.S., we need their support. Especially I’m asking for educational support, as I believe it’s a key against occupation, against fundamentalism, toward emancipation. And we really need their support, as practically when we see, it gives us more hope, courage, determination, but we need more.

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